Kimberly Trenor gave birth Thursday night

I was watching CNN and just caught the last of the scrolling headlines stating that Kimberly Trenor gave birth Thursday night. Did not catch whether it was a boy or girl. I wonder who will get the poor child.

Anything is Possible!!!!!

Kim at this point is CHARGED...she has NOT been found guilty of the crime.
If she is found NOT GUILTY....or possibly receives a lesser sentence for being the accompliss....

So, would that not mean that one day she would/could be released.....and would want to claim her son.....to raise.

I would suspect that the CPS has control until time when the trial is over to see the outcome.

Stranger things have happened.

Baby Shawn

You know, one thing that wasn't mentioned was that this little boy will some time in his life find out what his parents did to his sister and will no doubt feel horrified. He is, in some ways a little victim, also.

HOUSTON -- The parents of

HOUSTON -- The parents of a man accused of beating to death the 2-year-old girl once known as Baby Grace could get custody of his newborn son this week.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=6881238&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1

Custody Battle

Here is the link to the story in the Houston Chronicle which says nothing about Royce's parents wanting to adopt, in fact it states that CPS says they have not hand any requests from the Zeiglers to have custody of the baby. I am not sure where Fox got their story but I would like to know.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/moms/5864402.html
This child should not go to them, I still believe that it should be given to someone not connected to either family so he will never have to know what his parents did to his older half sister.

I AGREE ALSO...

I THINK THAT CPS SHOULD TAKE THAT CHILD INTO CUSTODY AND NEITHER RELATIVE SHOULD HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT BABY. THAT BABY NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY A FAMILY THAT HAS A CARING AND LOVING HOME AND HE NEEDS TO BE AS FAR AWAY FROM RZ'S RELATIVES AND KT'S RELATIVES AS POSSIBLE. IF I HAD THE MONEY AND THE MEANS, I WOULD ADOPT THAT BABY IN A HEARTBEAT!! LET ME HAVE HIM!! I THINK ANYONE OF US WOULD LOVE TO ADOPT BABY SHAWN.

Christina

I agree with you 100%

I agree with you 100% Sheryl, neither of the families connected to KT or RZ should get the baby. He should be adopted by another family, loved and nurtured far away from this story.

I agree with Sheryl. Neither

I agree with Sheryl. Neither family should have this baby. It should go to a loving family that has NO connection to either Kimberly nor Royce.

I definitely agree

although if they are going to relatives, Kim's would be better than Royce's parents.

Background.....

Ex-wives of accused killer's father say Baby Grace case familiar

12/11/2007

By LIZ AUSTIN PETERSON / Associated Press

When Rita Grofer heard that Royce Clyde Zeigler II was accused of beating his 2-year-old stepdaughter to death because the toddler failed to say "please," and "yes, sir," her blood chilled.

About 30 years ago, she had been married to Zeigler's father, who she said imposed the same disciplinary rules on their baby daughter and became violently enraged when she tried to intervene, once grabbing her by the throat and smashing her head into a kitchen cabinet.

"What (the younger Zeigler) did with that child was exactly what I saw, but mine never got killed," Grofer said.

Grofer and another of Zeigler's four ex-wives are pleading for mercy for Zeigler II, 24, and his 19-year-old wife, Kimberly Trenor, saying they were caught in the same cycle of violence that threatened their lives decades ago.

Trenor and the younger Zeigler are accused of killing Riley Ann Sawyers, storing her body in a shed for two months, then dumping her in Galveston Bay, where she washed ashore in October.

A grand jury will decide Wednesday whether Trenor and Zeigler II, should be charged with capital murder, a charge eligible for the death penalty.

Riley was known as "Baby Grace" for weeks after her tiny body washed ashore in a plastic box in Galveston Bay. Her identity remained a mystery until a police sketch caught the attention of her paternal grandmother in Mentor, Ohio.

That led authorities to the young couple, who married in June after meeting through an online game. They were living in Spring, a suburb north of Houston.

Trenor's attorney, Tommy Stickler Jr., said Grofer and another of the elder Zeigler's four ex-wives, along with a close relative the lawyer wouldn't identify, contacted him.

All of them blame the elder Zeigler and said the son was likely mirroring his father's behavior.

The elder Zeigler did not return several telephone messages left at his home by The Associated Press seeking comment. No one answered the door at his stately brick house in prosperous suburb about five miles from where his son and daughter-in-law lived with Riley.

Neither Royce Zeigler has a criminal record in Texas. Police were called to the family's old home in the Houston suburb of Tomball for a family disturbance in 1996, but additional information was not immediately available.

Neal Davis III, the younger Zeigler's attorney, said he was shocked by the ex-wives' allegations.

Davis said he believes the elder Zeigler has been with his client's mother since the 1980s, although marriage records indicate they wed in 2004. The other marriages occurred between the late 1960s and 1980.

"As far as we know, everything was just kind of normal," Davis said of his client's childhood. "Royce and Hiram (his younger brother) both have said 'No, my mom and dad when we got in trouble we would get kind of a time out, go to your room or occasionally a spanking.'"

But Grofer said her ex-husband called their daughter, April, a few years ago at her urging because the young woman was critically ill with a seizure disorder.

He screamed through the phone that he hated her and she sickened him, said Grofer, who listened to the call. Afterward, she spent three hours holding her sobbing daughter, worried about another seizure.

The other ex-wife who contacted Stickler declined to speak to the AP out of fear of the elder Zeigler.

A third ex-wife, who also did not want to be identified for fear of retaliation, said Trenor's claim that her husband wouldn't let her work outside the home or put her name on their bank account, "was just like listening to my life."

"When I saw the news, I said out loud to myself, 'What did you do to your child to make him such a monster," the woman said.

The Associated Press could not locate the elder Zeigler's other ex-wife, Deborah, but documents from her 1981 divorce petition said that after she filed for divorce, he tied an unidentified object around her left hand and tightened it until the bones snapped.

Trenor told Galveston authorities that she and the younger Zeigler beat Riley with leather belts, held her head underwater in a bathtub and threw her across a room, her head slamming into a tile floor.

An autopsy revealed that Riley suffered three skull fractures, but the cause of her death has not been determined.

Stickler said the fatal beating happened after the younger Zeigler stayed home from work to enforce the disciplinary plan he'd established for Riley.

He wanted Trenor to spank Riley with a belt when she failed to say things like "please" and "yes sir" or "no sir," but didn't believe Trenor was complying because the 2-year-old's behavior wasn't changing, Stickler said.

Davis has declined to comment on the ex-wives' stories or Trenor's account, but has said Trenor's credibility will become a big issue after all the evidence is examined.

People who experience or witness abuse as children are 10 times more likely to become abusers than people who don't, said Richard Gelles, dean of the School of Social Policy and Practice at the University of Pennsylvania.

Davis said he'd just begun researching his client's background and planned to closely examine his father's past and any influence it may have had on his son's behavior.

CPS

definitely needs to see this article, and talk to this woman. This baby needs to be protected!!

The track record of

The track record of Ziegler's father....is definitely NOT a person capable of raising his grandson.

Can someone PLEASE make sure the Child Agency gets a copy of the above article? Days are limited!!!!!

Do you want to see another case of child abuse.....

Pray for Love

The little guy deserves to have a very loving and caring family to raise him.

Let's all say a prayer that he will be placed in a home and begin his life amongst those that love him.

This will also bring happiness to a family that will be able to adopt him, in due time. I am sure the CPS will definitely make the right choices when the time comes.

Now, maybe Royce will FEEL what it is like to lose someone of your own flesh and blood.

msn article

The msn article says CPS is looking to place the baby with Trenor's relatives in Dallas. I wasn't aware that she had relatives in Dallas. If she does, I wonder why when Royce started being a threat to Riley why she didn't flee to her relative's house in Dallas.

Yes, why didn't she flee to Dallas

This makes me want to throw up. I cannot believe this girl has relatives in Dallas.

All my love Riley,

Puppy

Hmmmm.......

Why didn't she flee.....

To the Dallas relatives ?

To a local Police Station ?

To a local Church?

Same reason every other woman doesn't want TO ADMIT THAT THE
LOVING 'JERK' SHE MARRIED ( or is living with) turned out to be a complete.....ASSHOLE....

Happens everyday.....women are scared to make a move for FEAR.
They will then have to find other means to support themselves and their child/children.

Awww.....it was just a bad day at work for him...he really didn't mean those nasty words he called me..nor did he really mean to give me a black eye..... it wasn't all his fault.....he is a very loving and caring man.

Until the Next Time...and the time after that...and so on....

Does the above sound familiar to anyone???

So Sad

I still cannot believe it. I was looking at all three articles and the last one with the picture of Kimberly with Riley. I cannot believe she would not do anything to stop it then hide the fact that it happened. I can't believe it...

I KNOW...

This really makes me sick to my stomach. From what I understand Royce Ziegler told them that he didn't want the baby going into state custody, but they told him he didn't have a say so in the matter. Haven't their parental rights been stripped yet? I believe they are. Hopefully that baby will go to a wonderful home where he will be loved and cared for.

Christina

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